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Stynxno — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:43:23 -0800

The Top Ten Rap Songs White People Love

By: three blind mice

three blind mice — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:45:34 -0800

Don’t be fooled: deep down White People still think Ice is 110% gangsta. Nigga please.

By: ColdChef

ColdChef — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:48:02 -0800

I still have "Lodi Dodi" deep in my heart. Hell, I know it better than the Pledge of Allegiance.

By: ColdChef

ColdChef — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:48:51 -0800

(also, lolwhitepeople? Really?)

By: ColdChef

ColdChef — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:50:42 -0800

Also also: No Run DMC? This list be illin'.

By: Brittanie

Brittanie — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:52:57 -0800

We (white people) likes ta party.

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:55:03 -0800

I'm down with this fpp. Yeah. You know me.

By: JanetLand

JanetLand — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:55:22 -0800

Is there a similar list for black people?

By: piratebowling

piratebowling — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:55:51 -0800

No surprise at number one. Although I am surprised there is no Run DMC, Beastie Boys, Salt n Pepa...

By: Brittanie

Brittanie — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:58:15 -0800

I heard "Baby Got Back" on the iPod played by a bunch of expat soccer moms in taekwondo today, so somehow I knew it would be numero uno. I was right. Also, I'm totes down with OPP. You know me.

By: kittens for breakfast

kittens for breakfast — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:59:06 -0800

At least this isn't from cracked.com. I mean, there's that.

By: DU

DU — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:59:09 -0800

Any word on the differences between men and women?

By: dead_

dead_ — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:59:44 -0800

What, no Brass Monkey? We love that one.

By: internal

internal — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:59:45 -0800

Naughty by Nature: Hip Hop Hooray?!?! The obvious choice for this list is "O.P.P." not Hip Hop Hooray. You down wit' O.P.P.? Yeah you know me...

By: bondcliff

bondcliff — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:00:26 -0800

I'm personally not a fan of large asses. This is the absolute truth.

By: ejoey

ejoey — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:00:52 -0800

Top 10 songs that both white and non-white people in their mid to late twenties love.

By: sourwookie

sourwookie — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:01:16 -0800

When did cracked.com get a new URL?

By: ejoey

ejoey — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:01:20 -0800

rap songs, that is.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:03:00 -0800

Time once again, friends, to link to that old stalwart, Black People Love Us. But this list, this certainly doesn't represent my rap faves. But then, most of my heroes don't appear on no lame ass websites.

By: dead_

dead_ — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:04:41 -0800

Poking fun of white people's a) lack of musical taste and/or b) inability to dance is sooo 1998.

By: fuse theorem

fuse theorem — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:05:42 -0800

Eh, somebody beat me to Black People Love Us. About the list, no Snoop? I calls the mutherfukin BS while I sip my gin and juice.

By: roofus

roofus — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:08:00 -0800

Too soon? White people are the majority audience for rap, so the top ten rap songs for white people is just the top ten rap songs period. This list would be better.

By: shadow vector

shadow vector — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:09:34 -0800

Notable omissions: "The Message" "It Was a Good Day" Also, "The Humpty Dance" is the greatest song ever recorded and I will brook no opposition on this.

By: PeterMcDermott

PeterMcDermott — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:09:47 -0800

I still have "Lodi Dodi" deep in my heart. Snoop or Slick Rick?

By: delmoi

delmoi — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:11:55 -0800

Apparently white people stopped listening to rap music in 1995.

By: oddman

oddman — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:12:37 -0800

Well, at least it's not Rolling Stone. Listfilter, still sucks.

By: Rock Steady

Rock Steady — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:15:27 -0800

Damn! I had a $50 bet with myself that this was a link to Cracked when I saw the title in my RSS.

By: Ljubljana

Ljubljana — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:16:35 -0800

See, black people drive like this. But white people, they drive like this.

By: dobbs

dobbs — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:18:16 -0800

I've never even heard #1 before. I guess I'm not white enough. :(

By: PeterMcDermott

PeterMcDermott — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:19:24 -0800

Can somebody tell me what this means? "why does your new boyfriend has a hoodrat ass baby mother and she thinks shes on your level?" Is it asking why the boyfriend has a baby mother? Why the baby mother is a hoodrat? Why the hoodrat baby mother thinks she's on somebody's level? Or maybe the question is 'like Jimi', in that white people just can't read it? I mean, we can read it, but we can't really 'read' it?

By: eddydamascene

eddydamascene — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:22:53 -0800

I think White People love Pac because he makes them feel like they’ve lost a friend to gang violence. LOL

By: Faint of Butt

Faint of Butt — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:24:42 -0800

As I've confessed before, I'm white. I do, in fact, know and like most of these songs. Oddly, though, I never heard many of them until they were played for me by my wife, who is black.

By: Afroblanco

Afroblanco — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:28:19 -0800

Although I am personally in favor of large posteriors, I supposed I could manufacture a falsehood on the subject, especially if, say, I were detained in a military prison in Cuba and strapped to a chair with Dick Cheney standing in front of me holding a red-hot poker and wearing his famous "I *HEART* WATERBOARDING" t-shirt.

By: mkb

mkb — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:29:46 -0800

I heard "Baby Got Back" on the iPod played by a bunch of expat soccer moms in taekwondo today, so somehow I knew it would be numero uno. I was right. As a piece of meaningless trivia, Baby Got Back's beat is lifted from the same artist that Missy Elliott sampled for the beat to "Lose Control": Juan Atkins, Godfather of Techno.

By: Uther Bentrazor

Uther Bentrazor — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:29:59 -0800

Even if it's a simple list without a lot of exposition, I dig on it. With all due respect to Mr. Mix-A-Lot, I never want to hear that damn song again. Same with the rest of the list, pretty much any Beastie Boys single, Gold Digger, et al. And I LIKE these artists. If anything, the list wasn't specific enough. It's not so much "Rap songs white people like", it's "rap songs typical white people find the first 10 seconds and/or hook to funny to do a spastic dance or mocking hand motion to before going back to whatever flavor of the week pop garbage they poison the rest of their waking hours with." I'm not saying it's racist, I'm just saying it's lame. Don't get me started on Eminem being played on "alternative" radio. However, I tend to hate the "novelty/ironic" enjoyment of anything, so maybe I'm just no fun.

By: Brittanie

Brittanie — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:30:02 -0800

Notable omissions: "The Message" "It Was a Good Day" Don't forget Rapper's Delight, which was made totally nonthreatening by that old lady in "The Wedding Singer." White people are the majority audience for rap, so the top ten rap songs for white people is just the top ten rap songs period. I've heard/read this before. Assuming this is true, what kind of music do black people prefer instead? Please do not LOLRACIST me. I am just a country-bred white girl living in a diversity-sparse Asian country and I wish to seek the truth.

By: desjardins

desjardins — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:31:37 -0800

oh god, I know the words to ALL of these. I don't know if it's so much that I'm white as that these were all played non-stop when I was a teenager. (See my AskMe question.)

By: jontyjago

jontyjago — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:31:38 -0800

He forgot Skee-Lo "I Wish" - it has a very singable chorus and we white folks love that.

By: rxrfrx

rxrfrx — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:31:42 -0800

I remember back in the day "battling" another sixth grader at the ice skating rink in who could rap the first verse of this song the fastest. The kid was Asian, so I won. Someone is trying too hard.

By: god hates math

god hates math — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:31:47 -0800

Unlike most of his peers on this list, the Biz is a guy long deep in the hip hop scene with lots of cred, yet to White People he’ll only ever be that fat funny-looking black guy with the wig who sings bad. Except to those of us in the Mid-Atlantic, where he's just another victim of the Eastern Motors Curse.

By: gompa

gompa — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:34:02 -0800

By: PeterMcDermott

PeterMcDermott — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:37:12 -0800

He forgot Skee-Lo "I Wish" - it has a very singable chorus and we white folks love that. Proof.

By: SweetJesus

SweetJesus — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:37:52 -0800

No Dead Prez? All the white kids love Dead Prez! They did a collabo with Static X for christ's sake! What else do you people want?

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:41:12 -0800

I once saw Sugar Hill Gang perform Rapper's Delight while Rerun from What's Happening danced onstage with them. Just felt like saying that.

By: bondcliff

bondcliff — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:41:13 -0800

The other day a rather large-assed woman was walking in front of my wife and I. When she walked out of earshot (because I’m all cowardly like dat) I said to my wife “Man, baby got back.” My wife just isn’t up on the pop culture, so I spent the next ten minutes explaining what “back” is and who Sir Mix-a-lot is. Or was. When I was finished I felt like a big dumb idiot, and not just because it took me ten minutes to explain it.

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:42:22 -0800

(I would've linked to What's Happening, but I linked to Scrubs. For the other white folk in the audience.)

By: cortex

cortex — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:42:40 -0800

Where the hell is Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta? Me and my whitebread dotcom buddies would blast that fucker while we were rolling through industrial Providence on our lunchbreaks in George's sensible motherfuckin' sedan. We liked it disproporionately much, and I know we weren't alone.

By: mrgrimm

mrgrimm — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:46:53 -0800

Horrible list. What about Sabotage, or anything by the Beastie Boys? Isn't that rap? In my experience, white people who like rap/hip-hop listen to Kanye West, 50 Cent, and Jay-Z ... just like asians, black people, latinos, and everyone else. My favorite rap song is probably Rebel without a Pause (I am "white"), but I stopped listening to rap/hip-hop attentively about 10 years ago.

By: mr_roboto

mr_roboto — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:47:01 -0800

Well, shit. It looks like the author doesn't know a single white person under 30. "Catsandbeer" might be able to sharpen their reach to that all-important demographic by getting some authors who were adolescents some time in the past decade.

By: jewzilla

jewzilla — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:47:14 -0800

Allow me to sum up: White people, black people.

By: jrossi4r

jrossi4r — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:49:34 -0800

There are a lot of "Jock Jams" on that list. And why no Public Enemy? I try to work the phrase "Motherfuck him and John Wayne" into every conversation I can.

By: exogenous

exogenous — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:52:47 -0800

mkb, no f*cking way! Do you know which tracks were sampled?

By: Brittanie

Brittanie — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:53:11 -0800

Jewzilla just gave me epic lulz.

By: doctorschlock

doctorschlock — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:57:28 -0800

We had joy. We had fun. We had seasons in the Sun.....

By: mkb

mkb — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:58:42 -0800

exogenous, Baby Got Back samples 'Technicolor' by Channel One, and Lose Control samples 'Clear' by Cybotron (and 'Music Makes You Lose Control' by Les Rythmes Digitales)

By: signal

signal — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:05:04 -0800

mmmmmmmmm, racism.

By: doctorschlock

doctorschlock — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:10:15 -0800

Is Johnny Cash's song 'Folsom Prison' considered White rap? How bout '16 Tons'?

By: Atom Eyes

Atom Eyes — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:10:43 -0800

A good barometer of a rap song's white mainstream acceptance is how often it appears on the soundtracks of teen comedies and children's movies. According to IMDb Soundtrack Searcher, these are the movie soundtracks that feature "Baby Got Back".

By: krinklyfig

krinklyfig — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:13:45 -0800

These songs all suck, except maybe "Baby Got Back," and only as a novelty song.

By: raysmj

raysmj — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:14:50 -0800

Don't forget Rapper's Delight, which was made totally nonthreatening by that old lady in "The Wedding Singer." Made non-threatening. Teenagers at junior high schools in the Deep South and probably every place that had a substantial black population were dancing to this after marching band practice, already--I was one of them (a student who happened to be white in an integrated small-town school). When teenagers in a marching band are dancing to it, and the very white band director sits there and watches, smiles, it's non-threatening by definition. Sorry.

By: raysmj

raysmj — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:15:31 -0800

This was way, way, way before "The Wedding Singer." Not long after the single came out, for the record, or at least went national.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:16:56 -0800

It's like the playlist to every wedding I've been to for the past five years (well, the "urban" part of the playlist)

By: MtDewd

MtDewd — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:17:00 -0800

I just had to go to youtube to see White and Nerdy again, since it didn't make the list.

By: Mocata

Mocata — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:19:03 -0800

Fab Five Freddy told me everybody's high.

By: slimepuppy

slimepuppy — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:29:05 -0800

I'm still the sole proud user of the ignorantwhiteguy tag. Which doesn't really refer to the content of the question, more to the character of the person posting it.

By: raysmj

raysmj — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:30:00 -0800

"Urban" now equals black, I'm guessing, due to the fact that rural African-Americans don't sing or create anything resembling music. They were singing the blues and gospel and whatnot and then just clammed up. Everyone who lives in a rural area with largish black populations can remember the day it happened, somewhere around 1992.

By: edgeways

edgeways — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:30:17 -0800

Hell this whole "rap" thing is just a never ending Blondie rip off. If we're talking "black" rap the only song on that list I remotely liked was the Honorable mention of Arrested Development's People Everyday, and damn me but I don't really know all the lyrics. Public Enemy I liked, Michal Franti I like. Rap music, like all music really, is 80% crap, 10% ok, 10% golden.

By: adamrice

adamrice — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:31:45 -0800

Is there a "top ten Celine Dion songs black people love" list to round this out?

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:32:11 -0800

It's true, we're so lame! No Rapture? Bullshit! Rapper's Delight, which was made totally nonthreatening by that old lady Indeed; many people don't remember this, but the whole Cristal/Hip-hop controversy was small beer compared to the Great Kaopectate/Sugarhill Gang Beef of 1979. And, as ashamed as I am to admit it, I still check all my locks whenever I hear them rap about ugly food that stinks. *Shudders*

By: Artw

Artw — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:33:46 -0800

If you’ve ever seen Black People comedy, you’ll be familiar with the notion that White People have no rhythm and can’t dance. They call it "Mr. White mans timing".

By: PHINC

PHINC — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:39:48 -0800

No De La Soul '3 Feet High and Rising'? I cannot take this list seriously!

By: 23skidoo

23skidoo — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:42:57 -0800

In my experience, white people who like rap/hip-hop listen to Kanye West, 50 Cent, and Jay-Z ... just like asians, black people, latinos, and everyone else. Well durrrr. This list is "Top Ten Songs that White People (the ones who don't know anything about rap) Love (despite not knowing anything about rap)".

By: jdl

jdl — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:49:16 -0800

I still have "Lodi Dodi" deep in my heart. Snoop or Slick Rick? Slick Rick (the ruler) did La Di Da Di. Snoop's was Lodi Dodi. For some reason, when I can't sleep I recite La Di Da De in my head or else Paul Revere by the Beastie Boys which probably should've made this list.

By: rocketman

rocketman — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:49:17 -0800

Most of my heroes don't appear on a stamp.

By: fearfulsymmetry

fearfulsymmetry — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:51:12 -0800

Has the Holiday Rap been so quickly written out of history!

By: LarryGDVD

LarryGDVD — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:52:45 -0800

how did they come up with this information? I would like to see the survey? It seems odd that they have videos for every song.

By: breezeway

breezeway — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:52:51 -0800

Nelly is the white Justin Timberlake. Love it.

By: doctor_negative

doctor_negative — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:53:48 -0800

Where's Eminem?

By: Sparx

Sparx — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:54:48 -0800

I CAN HAZ BIRFDAY? BUTZ I R NOT SHORTY!

By: phaedon

phaedon — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:56:05 -0800

This is more a list of songs both white and black kids loved in the early to mid '90s when they were back in high school, when fades were still popular, kids were jumping around at parties, talking about wearing their clothes backwards, and asking eachother if they knew what the last "P" in "O.P.P." stood for (and of course, humming "LA Face with an Oakland booty" as hot girls would walk by the hallway). Somehow, this has devolved into a "white people/black people" thing, where it's like, by implication, if white people like this music, it must suck. When in fact these were jams for everybody ten to fifteen years ago. And they remind of being young. Not white.

By: stinkycheese

stinkycheese — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:12:34 -0800

If you're Canadian, you'd probably also include "Let Your Backbone Slide" or maybe even "You Wash Your Face In My Sink".

By: ColdChef

ColdChef — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:19:43 -0800

Slick Rick (the ruler) did La Di Da Di. Snoop's was Lodi Dodi. For some reason, when I can't sleep I recite La Di Da De in my head or else Paul Revere by the Beastie Boys which probably should've made this list. I'm all about Slick Rick's version (which I've always known as "Lodi Dodi" because that what the mix tape that Vashika made for me said). Ditto on the "Paul Revere." I did it with a Whiffle Ball Bat.

By: dismas

dismas — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:26:23 -0800

Oh, Tone Loc. I'm really glad he made the "honorable mentions," given that everyone I know can recognize his voice, but nobody knows his name.

By: cazoo

cazoo — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:28:25 -0800

The Biz really shouldn't be on that list. "Just a friend" crosses all color lines. And Vanilla Ice? White people have better taste than that.

By: DieHipsterDie

DieHipsterDie — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:28:56 -0800

Where's Public Enemy? And NWA?

By: JeremiahBritt

JeremiahBritt — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:31:34 -0800

No. Where's Eric B. & Rakim?

By: squasha

squasha — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:31:35 -0800

I once saw Sugar Hill Gang perform Rapper's Delight while Rerun from What's Happening danced onstage with them. You know, miss lynnster, there have been several life experiences you have mentioned in the last few years that have left me awestruck, but that one may just take the cake. And the list? Despite the obvious generalizations and stereotypes which I do my damndest to avoid...it definitely represents some mainstream songs (the most pop of the hip-hop) that are guaranteed to get people (of all ethnicities) out on the dancefloor. Even here in Japan.

By: kindall

kindall — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:41:42 -0800

Where's "Insane in the Brain"?

By: punkfloyd

punkfloyd — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:43:16 -0800

I like big butts and I cannot lie.

By: iconomy

iconomy — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:50:46 -0800

I have no respect left for Tone Loc after discovering via a commercial that he was Perez Hilton's rap coach on Celebrity Rap Superstar. Because I had TONS of respect for him before that. Way to kill it, TL.

By: tommasz

tommasz — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:56:26 -0800

Are White People the same as white people? I ask because I want to be sure I belong.

By: doctorschlock

doctorschlock — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:06:56 -0800

All your hip-hop belongs to us. Stop, do you hear that..? Is that hip-hop? No, it's a trap! Trap! Don't you mean Rap!? (drumbeat)

By: vito90

vito90 — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:11:40 -0800

Sweet! Evidently, I'm black.

By: Ambrosia Voyeur

Ambrosia Voyeur — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:19:28 -0800

White kids love hip hop. Whiiiiiite kids love hip hop. White kids love hip hop and axel, Tractors and Rambo, Playing unreal tournament with infinite ammo. Taggers and vandals In black socks and sandals, Doin’ as many drugs as they can motherfuckin’ handle. Skippin’ school, Breakin’ rules and flippin the bird, Fast food, cartoons after ittin’ some erb. Freakin dem flirts, Making ‘em purr till it hurts, Just a couple nerds Clockin’ the curbs, A couple a words about my nilla wiggas, Packin’ peters That are measured in milimeters. We don’t talk in the theaters Like we’re Siskel and Ebert. We drink box wine and we listen to Weezer. White kids love hip hop. Whiiiiiite kids love hip hop.

By: mullingitover

mullingitover — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:20:32 -0800

What, no 2 $hort? These people don't know what they're talking about.

By: Ynoxas

Ynoxas — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:27:40 -0800

No "Come on Ride the Train" or "Tootsie Roll" or "Brass Monkey" or "White Lines" or "Jam on It" or "Roxanne Roxanne" or "Informer" or "Mamma Said Knock You Out" or "Wild Wild West" or, for God's sake, "Can't Touch This"??? I call shenanigans.

By: smackfu

smackfu — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:41:10 -0800

Also needs DJ Kool - Let Me Clear My Throat.

By: Pecinpah

Pecinpah — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:45:57 -0800

I forwarded this list to all the white people I know in my office. They all loved it. I got IM's back like, "Oh, HELL YEAH!" and, "no WAY!" A discussion of each song's relative merits followed. Fucking white people. Pft. Whatev.

By: Prospero

Prospero — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:46:08 -0800

Are White People the same as white people? Absolutely not--in fact, race is not a 100% reliable predictor of Whiteness. (Bill Clinton is the canonical example of someone who is white but not White. Johnny Cash? Also not White. But Ted Knight's character in Caddyshack? Capital-W White. Same for Carlton Banks on The Fresh Prince of Bel Air--that's a White guy.)

By: tkchrist

tkchrist — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:46:25 -0800

I once was one of four other white people - the ONLY white people - at a PE and NWA show back in the day. While, yes, we got some surprised stares (and one guy showed us a gun) we went otherwise unmolested. Though one lady did say " You either crazy or brave-ass mother fuckers." We honestly never thought about it. That is all.

By: caution live frogs

caution live frogs — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:49:15 -0800

When I look at the list of rap songs on my iPod, I see Public Enemy, Wu-Tang, Jurassic 5, Ugly Duckling, and Run DMC. I also have Eminem, Beastie Boys and House of Pain (apparently, I am contractually obligated to have these on my iPod or I lose my White Person card). Other than "Jump Around", I do not see any of the songs listed in the FPP list of songs I am supposed to like because I am white. A large number of the songs listed (including the honorable mentions) are actually ones I do recognize but would not choose to listen to. Mostly because they were all overplayed. Same reason I generally skip "Creep" when listening to Stone Temple Pilots. Heard it way, way too many times to really ever want to hear it again. Not by choice, mind you. Those songs were pretty much unavoidable back in the day.

By: caution live frogs

caution live frogs — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:51:48 -0800

(Oh, I have some old school white boy shit on the iPod too, don't get me wrong - guy in my lab was laughing his ass off that I had both Wu-Tang and Gordon Lightfoot in my library. I don't get it - what's wrong with Canadian singer-songwriters?)

By: kittens for breakfast

kittens for breakfast — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:03:42 -0800

Hey, the Edmund Fitzgerald ain't nothin' ta fuck with.

By: aerotive

aerotive — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:13:41 -0800

I was given a copy of To The Extreme by my Very White Parents when I was 16. Even as a Very White Kid I knew it was lame, and so did everyone else as it was very hard to even give away. I do like California Love and It Was A Good Day though. So I've got that going for me.

By: jrossi4r

jrossi4r — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:28:41 -0800

Same for Carlton Banks on The Fresh Prince of Bel Air--that's a White guy. "Did you know that every seven minutes a black person is born in this country without soul?"

By: klangklangston

klangklangston — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:44:13 -0800

Quick rundown of my iTunes here at work: Aceyalone, Eric B & Rakim, Jeru the Damaja, KMD, LL Cool J, Ludacris, Madlib, Mobb Deep, Money Mark, Percee P, Pharaoh Monch, Snoop Dogg, Souls of Mischief, Viktor Vaughn and Whodini. Of those, the stuff I tend to associate with White People is the backpack shit like MF Doom or Monch. I've never heard a black person listen to any of that Mouse and the Mask shit, or Funcrusher Plus, or any DefJux or anything that makes it on Adult Swim. That's the rap music for White People, especially White People who are concerned with "Keeping it real" and supporting the underground and shit like that.

By: quin

quin — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:46:26 -0800

This list does not have Ice-T, Public Enemy, NWA, or Run-DMC, and Beastie Boys is an honorable mention? This list fails.

By: billyfleetwood

billyfleetwood — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:48:05 -0800

The idea that white people are the majority consumers of rap music is based on the simple fact that there are a lot more white people than black people in the US of A. If anything has mainstream popularity, the numbers dictate that it has been accepted by "white america". It's simple math. Nowadays, rap/r&b is mainstream pop music. The two are one and the same. To apply any sort of race-based dividing line is ridiculous. This has not always been the case.There was a time when a rap song could be a huge hit in the rap world, and not have any mainstream recognition whatsoever. Back when everyone was listening to Thriller, there were plenty of "hit" rap songs that most of my friends, black or white, never heard. Back in those days rap only got 2 hours of radio play a week, usually on sunday night. Making a "10 rap songs white people love" is a bit of cheap move. It would be much more interesting as a list of 10 songs that led to the mainstreaming of rap music. 10 songs that were key in movin rap from urban fad to dominant musical genre. In no particular order: 1.Rappers Delight is the song that introduced rap to the world outside of New York in the late 70's. Still a staple of wedding receptions and dance parties to this day. 2.The Message by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five is the first song that made people stop and listen to the words. Before this song rap was considered little more than nursery rhymes over disco beats. 3.Parents Just don't understand by Jazzy Jeff and the fresh Prince. The first rap song your mom thought was cute. 4.Walk This Way by RUN DMC was the first rap song that was made for the sole purpose of appealing to a white audience. 5.Fight for your right to party by the Beastie Boys. 6.Rob Base and EZ rock's It Takes Two. Just on the pure power of being catchy as hell. For some reason this song was really big in the hood, but suburban white girls liked it too. 7.Sir Mixalot's Baby Got back. Mixalot is an underrated genius, and was way ahead of his time. It's too bad he's only known for that one song, because, musically speaking he was the precursor to Timbaland, Missy Elliot, the Neptunes, etc. He helped invent the modern rap/r&B sound that's so prevalent today. 8. Me So Horny by 2 live crew. Simple formula: Old White people hate it? Young White people are gonna Love it. 9. Fuck Da Police by NWA. See #8, plus add the all important thug factor. 10. Hey Ya. Outkast. The best pop song since "Beat It" was made by rappers. All labels are now useless. If you want a good list based history of rap music, or are even slightly curious about the history of rap music, Buy this book. It's amazing.

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:49:40 -0800

squasha, let me tell you... the festival I was at -- so sparsely-attended that the First Annual Retrofest was also the last -- was one of the most gloriously surreal trainwrecks I've ever been to in my entire life. On so many levels. Nothing I say could ever do it justice.

By: straight

straight — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:00:55 -0800

White people are the majority audience for rap, so the top ten rap songs for white people is just the top ten rap songs period. I've heard/read this before. Assuming this is true, what kind of music do black people prefer instead? It's not that black people don't like rap. It's that there's a lot more white people in this country, so even if you have 75% of black people listening to rap and 30% of white people listening to rap, the rap audience could still be majority white. (Actual figures may vary, but that's the principle.)

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:03:03 -0800

BTW, the other day I had my ipod on random in the office and "Jump Around" came on. Of all of the songs that had played in a three hour period, nobody paid much attention until that one. But suddenly, all of the 28-35 year old white guys in the office perked up and one asked, "Lynn, is that YOUR ipod? No way!" Then the guys all sheepishly admitted to eachother that they used to love that song, and proceeded to dance and sing with eachother on the other side of my cubicle. I'm not even slightly joking.

By: Reggie Digest

Reggie Digest — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:30:48 -0800

MORE MAESTRO FRESH WES, PLEASE. How can you make a list of top 10 loved-by-whitey tracks without consulting some Canadians?

By: Greebie

Greebie — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:32:47 -0800

"The Breaks" and "Way Out West" by Kurtis Blow for us "older" white folks. WOW has an actual composed ending -- and real people playing real instruments too! And some LL Cool J needs to be on the list too. Some of that stuff barely passes for rap. MC Hammer anyone?

By: photoslob

photoslob — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:41:28 -0800

Just flying home from a photo seminar and the last night's party included 4 of these songs. There was nary a person of color to be found in the room for the record.

By: blucevalo

blucevalo — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:56:46 -0800

Another amazing hip-hop book, to add to billyfleetwood's. I can't believe nobody's mentioned Gang Starr yet. That is all.

By: Prospero

Prospero — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:16:24 -0800

I once was one of four other white people - the ONLY white people - at a PE and NWA show back in the day. By contrast, there were far more white people than black people at the Public Enemy/Ice-T show I went to last year. Of course, this was at the B. B. King Blues club in NYC, where they crammed people into seats at tables cabaret-style, forced you to buy plates of overpriced ribs, and a shot of Basil Hayden's cost $12. When Ice-T walked past our table to get to the stage, a child seated at a table near me said, "It's the guy from Law and Order!" And Ice-T stopped to say hi to him and give him his autograph. That was sweet.

By: Artifice_Eternity

Artifice_Eternity — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:16:34 -0800

If you want a good list based history of rap music, or are even slightly curious about the history of rap music, Buy this book. It's amazing. posted by billyfleetwood at 11:48 AM on October 10 [1 favorite +] [!] See also: Can't Stop Won't Stop: A History of the Hip-Hop Generation

By: Artifice_Eternity

Artifice_Eternity — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:18:00 -0800

P.S. That's a clever piece of coding that jacks all Amazon referral links on MeFi.

By: Big_B

Big_B — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:48:22 -0800

I saw Public Enemy open for U2 once. In Oakland. You would have thought someone accidently double booked a show and had to change out the crowd along with the stage in between.

By: The Card Cheat

The Card Cheat — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:59:54 -0800

I am a White Person, and I like #'s 1, 2, 5, 6, 7 & 9.

By: eustatic

eustatic — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:01:17 -0800

this article should have been written by the egotrip crew, then it would've been funny.

By: klangklangston

klangklangston — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:34:42 -0800

Sheryl Keyes' (or is it Cheryl?) book Rap and Street Consciousness is also an excellent resource.

By: mullingitover

mullingitover — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:45:58 -0800

Last week in Beijing I tried to get cab drivers to ghost ride the whip. They refused.

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:59:30 -0800

I am wearing my clothes backwards, yo! Yup yup!

By: Tehanu

Tehanu — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:42:10 -0800

Lists like this lead me to mourn the re-breakup of the Fugees all the harder. There was a Wall Street Journal article on race and rap sales statistics. (synopsis: the oft-repeated 70-80% figure is a misquote; the original marketing research reported 60%, but the author suggests that no one has good data on this).

By: davejay

davejay — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:39:37 -0800

No De La Soul? No Jurassic 5? No Public Enemy? Bah.

By: fe2dell

fe2dell — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:42:57 -0800

absolutely brilliant!

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:08:10 -0800

No 'Gangsta's Paradise?' There was this biker/metal bar I used to hang out at where that song got played at least three times a night and the the clientele was about 85% white/10% Latino/5% Black. There were however a lot of drugs being sold and consumed there, som maybe it was a gangster's paradise. Just saying.

By: kolophon

kolophon — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:16:16 -0800

some racial difference joke we white people from europe can only take a guess and fail... I really have no fucking Idea what this fpp is about.

By: exlotuseater

exlotuseater — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:01:27 -0800

"'There's a vacuum in music made by white kids for white kids,' said musicologist Arthur Kempton . . . 'Today 70 percent of hip-hop is bought by white kids.'"

By: KingoftheWhales

KingoftheWhales — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:24:43 -0800

Seriously? 130 comments on old rap songs that white people like? I love you all so much.

By: shakespeherian

shakespeherian — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:59:35 -0800

No Fresh Prince of Bel Air theme?

By: asok

asok — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:15:39 -0800

That Ice Cube 1999 bottom related thing seems to be quite popular with any audience, irrespective of skin pigment.

By: Sweetie Darling

Sweetie Darling — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:43:11 -0800

Link broken. List, please?

By: Foosnark

Foosnark — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:53:51 -0800

Huh. I'm listening to Stromkern now -- industrial hip-hop but with an oddly 80's New Romantic sort of feel to it -- by a white American guy who sounds vageuly British. I'm trying to decide whether I like it.

By: bwg

bwg — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:34:50 -0800

Nobody really likes rap.

By: bwg

bwg — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:08:34 -0800

Some white folks love TechnoViking.

By: desjardins

desjardins — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:45:14 -0800

I'm a white person and I prefer captioned Technoviking.

By: Anything

Anything — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:25:41 -0800

Everybody to the Limit was always this white boy's favorite.

By: Ambrosia Voyeur

Ambrosia Voyeur — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:56:45 -0800

oh, this old chestnut?

By: Brittanie

Brittanie — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:38:08 -0800

I might be sexually attracted to TechnoViking.